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Re: Club Business 2 months, 3 weeks ago #8187

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Seriously Mike - we are working on the whole constitution. What are the most important things to keep?
Right now, there are so many rules. Can it be whittled into one page?
Sue Rihn
Wisconsin Club member since 1987
Last Edit: 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Sue. Reason: Grammar. 4th grade was hard.

Re: Club Business 2 months, 3 weeks ago #8189

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Just looked through the constitution.
Couldn't find anything that hurts the club.
There are a few things that are seldom referred to but the only reason for deleting them would be to save a inch or two of typing.

Glad to hear you're working on it.
A lot of us are anxious to see specifically what you and your group want to change and/or delete.

Don't forget there's a proper & easy method to propose your additions, changes and/or deletions.
See Article VIII
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Re: Club Business 2 months, 3 weeks ago #8190

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Working on it, Mike. Imagine a shorter, simpler constitution.

Some members feel the club is at a precipice right now, and are ready to walk away.
As a board member, does this concern you or the rest of the board members? If so, have they/you listened closely to those members? Or did they/you become defensive and insist that everything is great?

All I am saying is that the club appears to be on the verge of losing a large number of our hard working volunteer base, and something needs to change.

So let's do some soul searching. Is the club healthy, strong, and growing? Are the members happy? What does the club need to do to return to meetings that are a fun place to go on a Friday night?

Be assured that most of us love this club as much as you do. What (if anything) can be done to bring this club into the 21rst century?

Remember: It's supposed to be fun.
Sue Rihn
Wisconsin Club member since 1987
Last Edit: 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Sue. Reason: additional thoughts

Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8192

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Good morning Friends ...
Attached is our current constitution, the table of contents, the latest list of how club members can get points, and the policies document.

Some of you may have seen these, but many of you probably have not.

This is why I believe we need to simplify our structure.

I remember when being in a club was all about the fellowship, the conversations, the laughter, and the rides. After 30 years I am still riding, but the club scene here has become less enjoyable. Is it too late to turn this bus around?
Sue Rihn
Wisconsin Club member since 1987

Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8196

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I don't know about the rest of you but I have greatly enjoyed being with all of you these last couple of years.
I appreciate your friendship and all that we have done together.
The rides, the fellowship, and the rallies together have been outstanding!
I am sorry that a few of you aren't enjoying this too.
Please don't fix what ain't broken.
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Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8197

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Where is the wine emoji?
Sue Rihn
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Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8199

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Where is this proposed new Constitution? We're all waiting to see it and while you are at it please include a copy of the MOA's to use as a comparison.

Thanks,
P
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Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8200

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FYI, here's a link to the Madison BMW Club's Constitution taken off of there website just for comparison. Lot's of similarities there IMHO.

Curious if they're in trouble to?

www.madisonbmwclub.org/constitution

Stay Warm & Dry,
P

Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8201

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Thanks Mr Papple! That really helps.
Sue Rihn
Wisconsin Club member since 1987

Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8202

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Papple, I'm a current member of the Madison club since Dec. 2011. During my tenure, the Madison Club Constitution has not been in use. It's an oligarchy and a social gathering. No club rides. No BMW needed. No waiting period. Just show up, pay the dues and you have full voting rights -- associate members too. If you don't like it, you're free to quit.
Both Clubs are fun, they just do things differently.
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Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8203

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These are the things that keep me awake at night. (just kidding, but I do wonder about these...)

  • Why do we need 2 Trustees and a Board member at Large?
  • Why do we need a constitution committee?
  • Why does our nomination & election process take 3 meetings?
  • Why can't we have a Saturday or Sunday Club meeting once in a while ... maybe something we could ride to (at a park?)
  • Why do we need all of these different kinds of members? Is the size of our club making it difficult to conduct business, especially if we need a quorum?



And Lastly ... how many of us have broken this one? Article IV, Section 1.4:
Tour Directors shall escort club members riding in a group at a safe and/or posted speed.
Sue Rihn
Wisconsin Club member since 1987

Re: Club Business 2 months, 2 weeks ago #8204

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aah.. finally some specifics Opinions follow in bold (only mine)

Why do we need 2 Trustees and a Board member at Large?
It was originally thought we should have a 7 member board.

Why do we need a constitution committee?
This is something I've wondered about also.

Why does our nomination & election process take 3 meetings?
Two for nominations (some can't make every meeting), one for actual elections
(Need a month for absentee voting).


Why can't we have a Saturday or Sunday Club meeting once in a while ... maybe something we could ride to (at a park?)
This sound like a good idea to me.

Why do we need all of these different kinds of members? Is the size of our club making it difficult to conduct business, especially if we need a quorum?
Which type would you like to eliminate?

I'll also add again... There's a proper & easy way for you to make these proposals.
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